Invisible People

Invisible People are everywhere if you are listening and looking. There are whole segments of society that feel as though they are invisible. Ralph Ellison wrote the book Invisible Man in 1952. It was the story of a Black man who was born in the south and had high aspirations. He went to college and through a series of events realized he was invisible. The young man realized that he was being manipulated by others. The story he wrote resounds in the theatre of real life historical events. Recent and past events including but not limited to the riots after the murder of George Floyd and the storming of the Capital after the loss of the Presidential election by Donald Trump tell us that we must see people and find solutions that speak to the cause of the anger and pain felt by groups and not just look to punish those we judge. Dave Chappelle said the streets were talking after the demonstrations and riots following George Floyd. Is the storming of the Capital, Middle America speaking? I don't know, but I do know that in order to solve the problems we are dealing with today in America, we have to think differently. We have to do more than just "punish" those responsible. We have to speak to those that feel invisible.

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Unknown: 0:01

Yeah, he came a long way I can do a long way. I'm not afraid of the moment. I'm not afraid to get up in the morning.

Terence Shigg: 0:40

Welcome to the peace project with Terence l. Shigg. Welcome back, I'm glad to see that you are continuing to listen, and I hope that you are getting something out of it. Today, I would like to start off with introducing the topic, of course. So today we're going to be talking about invisible people, and visible people. And to me, that means people who feel disenfranchised, not listened to, not an equal part, and a part to play in society. For some reason, they feel as though they have been discounted, so invisible people. And I think everyone at some point in time feels invisible. And I think the key that we, as a society in this time right now really need to pay attention to him to look at is how are we working to make sure that as many people are enough people are visible, so that we can work together and do what's best for society, not just what's best for a letter. And when I say a letter, I'm referring to a particular political party, or to a caste. 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It's a perfect supplement for those looking for a high quality thermogenic and lipogenic fat burning supplement. And as with any supplement, make sure you check with your doctor before beginning any supplement regimen. So this is the peace project. And today our topic is invisible people, invisible people. Now I'm not talking about the kind of people are aliens that you can't see or people that don't exist that we just create in our mind. I'm speaking to the idea that there are people within our society that for whatever reason, and it really, to me doesn't matter whether or not it is something that I believe, but they believe it's really important what that person believes. And there are a portion of society that believes that they are invisible. To begin this, I wanted to kind of get your mindset because I think I'm going to challenge you a little bit today I'm going to challenge you to think a little bit differently. Albert Einstein had a say in this saying was we cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them. And so I want you to just try to think outside the box for a little bit. And here's a little exercise that I hope will get your mind in preparation or prepared to kind of think outside the box. There's a story called 17 camels. And it's a story of a wise and prosperous father. And his wise and prosperous father, as any good father wanted to make sure that he left a legacy for his three sons. And he left his belongings to them. And part of the belongings in those days, your belt, your wealth was measured in the things that you had. And the major thing in this part of the country were camels. And this wise man, when he passed away, had 17 camels. So he left his 17 camels to his three sons. And then as well, he specifically laid out how they were to be divided. And they were to be divided, with the oldest son getting two thirds of the camels, the middle son, getting one sixth of the camels, and the youngest son, getting one ninth of the camels. So even though it was spelled out specifically, how this was to be done, if you notice, 17 doesn't divide into any of those numbers equally. So the sons began to argue about how to divide up their father's inheritance to 17. camels? Because there was no clear answer on how to do it. So finally, the oldest one said, well, let's go to the wise man in town. And we'll tell him our problem. And maybe he can help us with this. Because we're getting nowhere, as brothers do, they just argue back and forth. So they went into town. They went to see the wise man. And they told him about their dilemma. They told him that their father left the will left his inheritance and left them 17 camels, but he specifically said that we had to divide it up this way, where the oldest would get two thirds, the middle son would get on six, and the youngest would get one night while the wise man sat there for a while, and he thought and he thought, and he said, You know what, I don't know if I can help you with this problem. But I'll tell you what I will do. I have an old camel, extra camel Outback. You can have him. And maybe that will help you with your dilemma. So the boys grumble they took Of course, they took the extra camel. And they grumbled a little bit. But then the middle son said, Hey, wait a minute. Let's let's try and do this again. The oldest said, I don't know why. But okay, let's try and do this again. The wise men have given them one extra camel. So now they had 18 camels. So the oldest said, okay, two thirds, two thirds of 18 is 12. So, Hey, wait a minute. This works now. So I'm okay. I get 12 camels. Middle sound says Okay, one, six. Okay, well, one, six of 18 is three. So I get three counts. And then the youngest said, Okay, 191, ninth of 18 is two, I get two camels. So you add the 1212 camels for the oldest, three, three for the middle, that's 15 plus two for the youngest. That's 17 camels. They have one camel leftover, which they promptly returned to the wise old man. So you see, the idea of this story is the fact that we don't always know the solution. We can't always see the solution. Maybe we're a little too close to the problem. And so we have to think differently in order to solve the problem. So I'm going to challenge you on this episode to think a little bit differently. We'll be right back. After a word from our sponsor.

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Terence Shigg: 9:56

And welcome back. Welcome back to the peace project. My name is Terence Shigg. And today we are discussing invisible people. Now let me break down how I came up with the idea where invisible people came from. I wasn't, you know, hallucinating or something, I was reading a book or listening to it. And if anybody doesn't have Audible, I suggest you get it. Audible is a great way to listen to books and stories while you're on the road while you're moving. And I was listening to audible on I listened to a book called The Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison. And Ralph Ellison wrote this book back in 1952. And Ralph Ellison was a black man who wrote this story. And so this is a spoiler alert, if you haven't read the story, I'm going to talk about the story. So either skip this part or just know that you're going to know a little bit about it. So he wrote this story about a young black man who was born in the south, and traveled from the south to college, and went from college to the big city. And it's this whole idea. And it's a very, I think it's a very intricate story, and full of symbolism. And it talks about how this young man went from the south to college with these grand ideas and aspirations, only to be let down, and to be kind of disenfranchised with the whole idea of a society and working to better society and realizing that there are forces and powers out there that are trying to manipulate society in a certain way, and that those forces are very powerful. And so he gets, some would say disenfranchised, some would say he gets woke, in some would say he gets disappointed, because he realizes that with all the good intentions that he has, there are other things at play besides what he wants and what he thinks is best for society. It's a great concept, because he talks about it in this long, I mean, it's a great story, unfolds it and talks about how this young man really develops into feeling as though people don't see him. They just have their own agenda, their own ideas. They want to hear what they want to hear, say what they want to say they don't want to be challenged. Sound familiar? I mean, that was the amazing thing. This guy wrote this book in 1952. And this really sounds like what we're talking about right now today with the events that are going on right now. And it really started to play out for me when we saw the the riots at the Capitol, when those people force their way into the capital with the intentions, which no one really knows their hearts. So we don't know their intentions. We just know what the what was put out on the media of what they wanted to do. But what gets people into that type of a mindset. And so I would challenge you to think that is because people feel invisible. They feel unheard. disenfranchise. You go back to the riots that happened after the George Floyd's murder. And the people taking to the streets and the people being angry, angry at society in general angry at law enforcement, angering at anger at a feeling of being powerless and unheard in the struggle to bring to light the fact that black men are being killed at a disproportionate number. And again, remember, I'm challenging to go outside the box, whether you believe these things or not. There are a portions of our society that believe these believe these as facts, and if they do, then we must address that issue. Not that fact, that issue that issue of feeling powerless and feeling invisible. Dave Chappelle had a great thing. He talked about the riots, and he talked about the movement. And he said that the streets are talking. So again, not condoning the riots or the violence, but speaking to the people and what are they saying? They're saying that we feel invisible. We feel as though no one's listening to us that No one hears this that no one sees us. Now go fast forward to the siege, the riots, whatever you want to call it at the Capitol. And I'd like to challenge you to say that middle America is talking. And once again, not saying that you have to agree with the movement agree with their statements. But we have to speak to the feeling, the feeling of them being deployed, deplorable the feeling of them being unheard, the feeling of them being cheated or robbed. And it doesn't matter whether or not that is a fact. Or if that is true, they believe it. And therefore we must speak to that feeling, not that fact. Because we can argue, facts back and forth, as the media loves to do and pit us against one another. But what I'm saying is we need to start speaking to the people and the feelings that are produced by the set of facts that they believe, because the facts are arguable, and they are different. And everyone has their own way of thinking to get to those facts and to use those facts and to interpret those facts. But the feelings are universal. Because this book was written back in 1952. And it still applies today. It applies to black people, brown people, white people, Asian people, it applies to everyone, that feeling of being invisible. And look, I'm not condoning violence. I'm not condoning rights. But I'm saying that in order to move past this, in order to deal with this, we have to start speaking and listening and seeing the people and not the problems and not the set of facts. We need to start speaking to the people. And I think back to the riots in Los Angeles, I think back to the riots in 1992 when Rodney King, the Rodney King incident happened, I was living in Los Angeles, I was living probably about a half a mile away from the the law enforcement command center at the the bus RTD bus center, I can still pictured up the road from me. And I remember one particular night, because at this time, I lived in a one room studio that I rented from my uncle in Los Angeles, I was just starting my career out. So me and my girlfriend at the time who would be my future wife and a mother of my children, we were in this room listening to what was going on around us as well as on the radio and talking about the the fires and the business owners protecting their their property. You had business owners with guns on rooftops, you had police cars on fire. And I remember one in particular thing, what happened was, they had looted a grocery store in the grocery store was on the front side of a bed and care facility for the elderly. And so they looted the grocery store and the bed and it caught on fire. And so the fire was spreading and possibly going to spread to that bed and care so they were asking for anyone that was in the area could come out and help. So me my girlfriend at the time go out into a riot into this type of atmosphere and I still wonder to this day why we never just said you know we're just gonna stay here and hunker down. We actually got some blankets and jackets together, went to the location helped them evacuate, help them cover up and make sure that the the elderly residents where you're taking care of and the fire department and paramedics were on scene. And then we went home. And I remember the scene of seeing people ride walking down the street with grocery carts full of food of diapers of cars filled with, with clothes, of arms filled with groceries. There was a level of excitement about the it was almost as if people were feeling as though they were being heard. They were being seen, they were getting what was deserved them. And I know that may make no sense, but I hope I gave you a visual of it because it was it was dark, it was late at night, early in the morning, somewhere in between 1am 3am some time that you know, I used to call that the witching hour when I worked Midnight's because that was the hardest time to stay awake that once you hit that, that two o'clock 2am. But, and people were up and excited, you had families, you had adults, you had people from every walk of life, taking advantage of this situation. And now I'll say check that of, of being a part of this situation. And I say being a part of this situation, because that night, even though they were unknown, because no one we didn't know who all of these people were as any group as any Riot type group where they're looting or doing things, you don't see the individuals until afterwards. But as a group, they felt visible. And I challenge you to believe I challenge you to, to look at what happened at the Capitol. As any different this group of people who felt invisible, disenfranchised, felt like they were labeled as deplorable as if their opinion didn't matter is felt as if they were not a a viable part of society being heard. Wanted to be visible. So I hope you follow along with me because I'm, and I'll say it one more time, I am not advocating the violence. But I want you to understand the feelings that lead to it. Because I think we're going in the wrong direction if we're trying to unite, if we're trying to to unite by punishing by judging, by making sure that people are held accountable. And that's it. We're just setting we're just setting things in motion for the next right for the next feeling or batch of people to feel invisible and to want to be, I wouldn't even go far enough to say need to be seen. And for the next incident to occur. And this is this isn't new, this is something that's been around for as long as we've been here, that there's been a portion or a group of people who have been felt oppressed. I'll use the word felt subject to a to rules and standards that they have no say so in who's felt disenfranchised? And isn't that kind of the the seed for conspiracies, the seed for conspiracies is okay, you don't understand what's going on. So I'm going to tell you what's going on. I'm going to, I'm going to give you a glimpse into what nobody else knows, I'm going to make you part of this group, which makes you visible. I see you so I'm going to I'm going to include you. And isn't that what conspiracy theories do and and cults do, and groups that are looking to manipulate others do and we must realize that it doesn't always come in the form of a cult or in the form of quote unquote religion or in the form of a con man. It could come in the form of society in general. Society wanting to create a better, more economically advanced society will manipulate things for its benefit. I had a friend tell me the other day and I know I'm going to do a podcast on this topic because it just it keeps sticking with me. And he said to me, as we talked about We talked about just society in general and the wars and how minority groups have been treated over the years, and how the poor have been treated over the years. And he said something that stood out to me, he says, you have to remember that America is not always the good guy. And I think that's something that we have a hard time as Americans accepting. Because we want to believe that we are the light on the hill, we are the knight in shining armor, we are the country that is the example for the world. And that may be so but that doesn't mean that everything that we do is without mistake, and is not always done with good intentions. I say all this not to be depressing, or to say, okay, there's nothing that you can do about it, because there is something you can do about it. Because if you think about it, and that's why I started this with the idea that I wanted you to be able to think outside of the box. Because if you think about it, in order to feel invisible, you have to allow someone else to tell you or make you feel invisible. You have to believe what the media is saying what a leader is saying that says that is contrary to what you believe in discounts what you believe, to feel invisible. So the solution in a roundabout, direct, simple form, the solution is to understand that no one can make you invisible, that you have to allow yourself to be invisible. And the phrase that came up to me when I started thinking about it is if you are invisible, to be invisible, is to be a slave. And I say that with all of the shock and awe that it brings up because I wanted to bring up that visceral effect that to be invisible this to be a slave, because you are now you are now giving up your power of thought, reason, action reaction to an outside entity, be that politician be that a leader be that a group, you are giving up your power to that group to tell you what you think and what you believe. Therefore, the solution to that is to know that you are visible know what you believe and know who you are know yourself. If you ever look up Simon Sinek he has several different videos, he has several different books one the infinite game, start with y. But one in particular part of his book, start with y talks about something that he refers to as the celery test. And the celery test is the idea that if you know what your purpose is, what your mission is, if you know who you are, then as things come at you that is your standard that you put things up against. And the example that he gives is if you're trying to lose weight, if you are trying to eat healthier, and you go to the grocery store, and you say okay, I'm going to eat healthy, I'm going to try and lose some weight. So I'm going to go down the cookie I do you think you're going to find something on the cookie aisle that is going to help you be healthier and lose weight? No more than likely not. And so when you go down the the fresh vegetables and fresh fruit aisles where the celery is and the apples and the oranges, do you think you're gonna find something over there that will help you eat healthier and lose weight? Yes. And so knowing what your mission is, knowing what your purpose is to be healthier, eat healthier, lose weight. You can test the things that you are selecting and the actions you are taking with that. And if they don't match, then you don't eat them. If that is your mission, and see now I always add into that it's not about guilt. It's not about shaming yourself into it. Because we slip we're human. You're still going to eat that cookie every once in a while. You But it's a different thing to eat that cookie knowing it does not fit with your mission. And it's not going to help you get healthier and lose weight, then to pretend that one cookie don't matter, I can eat six of these, and they won't bother me, I'll just walk an extra 200 steps today. Because now you're manipulating who you are to fit what you want to do. Let me say that again. Because now you are manipulating who you are to fit what you want to do. And that is the road to visibility, rather than knowing who you are, knowing that that is not in line with what you want, and doing it with the conscious awareness that today, my cheat day, this doesn't fit with my mission, but I'm going to have some cookies today. Totally different mindset. Totally different mindset. And the more that we can recognize our standard and our purpose, and move in directions that that feed that speak to others to get them to do that. That's how we move past this. And so now I know people will say, Okay, well, but people have to be held accountable. And people have to be responsible, and we have to punish the people that did that. Okay, that's, that's your reasoning, that's fine. But remember, we still have to speak to that feeling of being invisible. I remember working at a prison and working midnight shift, and having to stay awake all night. So what I would do is I would go in and get books, and I would stay up and read books in between count, and anyone that's worked in a jail knows that. That's what you do all night long as you count, just to make sure that no one's escaped, and all the other fun stuff, are you checking books, but that's a story for another podcast. One in particular book that I remember that I that I got from the library, and back in those days, people went to libraries. I don't know, kids still do that was called just revenge. And it was about the death penalty. And it talked about it made a very, it made a very good case against the death penalty. Now when I say that people are you may think that okay, whatever. Okay. And I personally, I'm against the death penalty, and I'll tell you why. But I also can agree to the death penalty penalty in certain situations. Now, that sounds like I'm being political. But no, it's not. Because I know why I believe what I believe. And I can say, Okay, this is what I believe that one's different. This one, I understand it, and I understand it from the the, the parameter that it is, it's not a deterrent is not to save money. It's just for revenge. And that's what this book broke down. And it talked about how it costs more money to how someone on death row to actually put someone to death costs more money, because of the added specialties for guards and the the procedures that they have to go through to kill someone. And then it also talked about how it isn't a deterred from crime, because even though we have the death penalty, those types of capital murders continue to, to stay at the same level or increase. So it doesn't decrease the the amount of crimes and it doesn't, it's not less expensive. The book came to the conclusion that we do it just for revenge. And so I would go to with that, I would put the conclusion out there and have you think about it, when we say that these things have to be punished, and people have to be held accountable. And and no one talks about getting to the root cause of these issues. Are we just doing it for events? As you listen to the media, and they talk about how well when BLM did this, this is what happened and now you have these riders doing it and the same thing should happen to them. And you're comparing the level of enforcement here and the level of purity punitive action here and and you're arguing about how you should punish them and it should be equal to them. And I agree there should be an equal playing field and They should be punished to the same level. But I really believe we're missing the point. missing the point because we're not speaking to the causes of these things. We're not speaking to the social injustice that are causing these problems. We're not speaking to the people who feel as though they are not being seen that they are invisible. And what leads to that the level of disparity in education, in resources in finances, the levels of disenfranchisement, the differences in the levels of community, from the services available in certain communities, to other communities, to the education system, in the schools, in certain communities and other there's such a disparity. You're going to have people that feel invisible, unless we start taking care of people and start talking to people and start talking to what is causing them to feel invisible. And you may not agree with what I'm saying, this is a hard truth, I believe to to, to talk about. But I really believe it's the discussion that needs to be had. Because no amount of policies, no amount of executive orders, no amount of criminal cases, is going to speak to people who feel deplorable, who feel disenfranchised, who feel as though they are discounted, and who feel that they are being manipulated by a power structure that does not include them. And that's what we are, that's what we are seeing here in America. And the way out of that is through ourselves, learning who we are, what our purpose, our what our purpose is, and to start speaking to people and not to problems. start connecting with people who feel invisible. And not just solving problems, and not just throwing money at problems, and not just building and investing. And thinking that the problems will go away. We need to start investing in our youth and we need to start investing in people and giving them the resources that they need, so that they can feel visible. So I hope I've made my my point clear, and I hope you understand that none of this is saying that the actions taken of those who feel invisible, are warranted if those actions violate the rights of others, but we have to stop bifurcating these issues from the people in the causes, and then throwing away the causes, and just judging the people. Because to me, that's the recipe that we've been doing over and over again. And we continue to have right after Riot after riot. We continue to have disparity in communities, we continue to have food insecurity, we continue to have unequal access to resources and education, we continue to have a segment of society who controls the media, the finances as in the stock market. And by having that control, there comes responsibility from those entities. And those are the entities that must come along in this process. They must come along in this process by listening to the people that they are influencing and ask themselves the question, are they influencing those people for their benefit, meaning the benefit of the corporations and the people that are putting out this information? Are they truly truly trying to help Are they truly trying to inform? Or are they simply trying to increase their bottom line. And until that happens, as individuals, we need to get together and understand that our, our information, our self worth, should never and cannot be determined by someone else's bottom line. So the more that you know yourself, the more that you put things to that salary test, the more that you take action, rather than reaction as your primary course, the better will all be. So that's it for today, this episode of invisible people, and I want you to chew on it for a while, think about it. And I'd also like to say if you enjoy this podcast, if you listen to it in, you get something out of it, please pass it along forwarded to a friend, share it, leave a message like, and let me know what you what you think. If you'd like to send me an email, you can send me an email at t shigg@gmail.com. That's t shigg@gmail.com. And thank you for listening once again. And you know, the drill, let's get to work. Had a quick addendum, as I thought about this topic, some more topic of invisible people. And I always like to give a challenge at the end. So my challenge is going to be for you to see the invisible people in your midst. And I'll give you a kind of a blueprint for it or an example. And I might get in trouble for this one, I might I might get my black cards suspended or revoked for for a four minute, hopefully, it won't be a permanent thing. But uh, let me give you a little insight. There's one thing that I learned to do growing up as a black man in the United States is that it's something that when you're out in public in, I always learned it and figured it was just what was done. And later on rationalized it as it's just because we are such a small portion of the population, and many of the places that we are, it's very few of us around. So when I'm out in public and I see someone who is who appears to be a minority or African American, it is almost out of well, it's not almost it's out of just total habit that I will acknowledge them by giving them a little, you know, a little heads up a little nod a little, little eye contact to say, Yo, I see you. And it's 90% of the time, that other person will look back at you and like Yo, yeah, I see you too. Like I said, I hope that doesn't get me in too much trouble with my with my my brother. And but that's just something that we do. That's something that African Americans do the something that black folks do, we we acknowledge each other when we're in public, even if we don't know each other, kind of just a Hey, I see you type thing. And thinking about challenges and solutions, one of the things I want you to do is I want you to recognize people acknowledge people, be kind to people, my daughter, every year, her school does this kindness week thing, and they give him a list of things that they can do to be kind. And it was a little more challenging this year, because some of the things are school specific, like sitting next to someone you don't know or making a new friend at school. So she really had to be a little more or we had to be a little more creative with it. And one of the things we talked about was after the week was over, I wanted her to know that this isn't something that we just do for a week that kindness is something that we should always be doing. This is just a week to kind of give you a reminder that this is something that you should be doing all the time. And she understood that. And so my hope and my challenge for you after this, this episode, is that you will no longer be able to ignore the invisible people in our midst that you'll see the obvious ones like the homeless person walking down the street, or the person with mental health issues that's talking to themselves. But I'm hoping that we'll go Little bit further, and you'll see the ones that aren't so obvious, you'll see the lady that's working as a cashier that just seems a little off and you don't know why. And you'll be challenged to be kind to her to say something nice to appreciate her for being an essential worker doing a job that's putting her in contact with the virus over and over again so that you can have toilet paper. Hopefully, this episode will let you see the invisible people that are missed that aren't as easy to see like the person in front of you or behind you in the grocery line, that for some reason, you can tell they just couldn't get everything that they needed. And something prompts you to, to pay it forward. Hopefully, you'll be able to see the invisible person in our mitts that doesn't look like you are looks like some group of people that you don't care for. Be that law enforcement. And it could be that law enforcement officer that seems a little too confident, you'll recognize that he feels like he's invisible. And you'll notice that your reaction is different. And the actions that you take will, will take on a new meaning. When you see that there are people all around you that fill them visible. That feel as though they don't matter. That feel as though no one sees them. So the challenge is and what you can do individually without any additional resources. Besides the body in mind that you have is Be kind to people smile at people. random act of contrast, random acts of kindness are welcome. But overall, let's see each other. So this time, it's really this is the end. I'd had to add that little bit in there. And I'll say it one more time. Let's get to work.

Dwayne E. Shigg: 47:26

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